Live forever?
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Do you know this guy? His name is Aubrey de Grey he is convinced that people can live forever and he leaders a project to try to make it possible.
I found this documentary about him pretty interesting, specially because it let us enter in the discussion about the consequences to live forever or even hundreds of years.
I was thinking about a few of them:
1. Older people has a huge advantage in terms of experience respect young. In the opposite side they lack of all the strong and physical energies of young ones. In an environment where the body have a big role for subsistence, the older you are, the less possibilities to survive. But at the same time the more tricks you know about how to survive. But what about if the body does not change at all? You do not die at all? Always young and more experienced every day. The advantage respect younger will increase indefinitely and more the time passes, the more the life will became difficult for the new comers to participate in the constant race this world is immersed in. For example, imagine to be born in a society with people that have 200 hundred years more experience than others, or even more. They will become an incredible font of knowledge and inspiration for many others but at the same time if those people have bad intentions it would be really hard to even understand for the younger how much controlled they could be.
So the society would be divided in people with more and less experience. The money, the intelligence, anything can not fight against the experience and the knowledge of life. At this point there is one more questions that we can think of as obvious.
2. How much could a human learn? 100 hundred years old people are an example that an entire life is far away from that supposed limit. Many of them still remember absolutely everything about their lives and make pretty logic and have good reasoning. So if we could take away all the senility lack from their bodies those people would be able to still learn and get more experience. So where is the limit? Nobody knows. The possible limits could demonstrate one important thing in all human history. It would demonstrate, for instance, that if the intelligence, memory and everything we are, reside into the brain or somewhere else, that would mean that the brain would be us. If so, it should have a memory limit, a learning limit. As we learn new things, we forget other things. Anyway, anything can get totally lost and sometimes making some relationships we are able to remember something that was apparently totally lost. The only thing we never get enough experienced in and never forget is experience itself. Some people said that 10 years is the minimum time to get expertise in some art or technique. But what about life experience? A 100 year old person, even if he/she is terrible ignorant and had never ever get out from his/her little town, can give me a lesson of life that I would never even imagine. That learning increase year after year… Then, what if we could live forever, there would there be some limitation?
3. Population would become a big problem. Technology can help on that, just increasing the places available to live and to find ways to find all the resources we could need. Specially with a non dying population, scientists and researchers would have more time to discover other ways to support that kind of society.
4. Value of death. Actually is something accepted that people have to die someday. But in a society where death is something not belonging to any natural process, the idea of death would get a totally different meaning. The sorrow for someone’s death would become an unsurmountable lost.
5. What about religions? Almost all religions would lack of any meaning in that society and the possibility to live almost indefinitely would bring new ideas and philosophies.
6. What about economy and possessions? People could accumulate infinite resources. The meaning of money, work and inheritance would change radically. The society would need to find other ways to make people work and money won’t be more a acceptable excuse to do it.
Personally I disagree with people that disagree with the idea of Dr. Aubrey de Grey. If he can make it, all the collateral problems are irrelevant compared to the advantages.
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January 3rd, 2009 - link to this comment
>The society would need to find other ways to make people work and money won’t be more a acceptable excuse to do it.
Discrepo. Echando un vistazo a la historia reciente, hay una cosa, las hipotecas, que se adaptarian automaticamente al nuevo span de vida y seguirias teniendo que trabajar por dinero.
January 5th, 2009 - link to this comment
Pero como se podría hacer una hipoteca de por vida? Unos 200 años de hipoteca? Vivir indefinidamente no implica no poder morir. Si tenemos un accidente, la esperanza de vida de X años se reduce drásticamente a 0. Aseguradoras, bancos, etc tendrían que replantearse todo el escenario para basar su negocio.
January 5th, 2009 - link to this comment
Las aseguradoras y bancos ahora tambien incluyen la posibilidad de accidentes y muertes prematuras en sus calculos. Eso tambien estara incluido.
La hipoteca entonces, se adaptaria a esta esperanza de vida.
En cuanto a hacerla cuasi-eterna, es sencillo: quizas la gente no muera, pero los pisos si. Se construirian para que no aguanten mas que unas decadas. Entonces habria que comprar otro, y vuelta a empezar (^^)
January 5th, 2009 - link to this comment
Pero la pregunta es.
Si vives indefinidamente cuanto potencialmente podrás ganar? La experiencia y los sueldos como crecerían? Se pagaría en función de la edad, quizás siendo más viejo pagas más? Pero también más experiencia te daría más ventajas sobre otros para ganar más dinero o incluso hacer que lo ganen por ti. Todo da vueltas sobre el hecho de que morimos en un período concreto. Que harán cuando la muerte es algo totalmente aleatorio? Habrá que pensar en otras formas de obligar a la gente para que trabaje o mejor aun evitar el trabajo por completo usando la tecnología.
May 16th, 2009 - link to this comment
I believe I can live forever with the entire use of my Brain,and the reproduction of Brain cells.The messages from my Brain to my entire body sensing the need of whatever or wherever needs aid and cell stimulation is the key amoung other factors.I will not be able to include every asset but here are a few,accepting others regardless of race,gender,religion,upbringing,and other circumstances. Do the best you can at whatever your doing feels good and stimulates your being. Try not to do something because it may appear good in someone elses eyes or being. Here is one that Iam working on,I like to let others know that I was the one who for example, helped them be able to walk when they were crippled things like that. In my reality I feel I should not boast about the things I do to help others because it does not seem to help me. I feel whatever I DO Iam doing for myself first and then for others. I do hope that my imput is read and understandable,it was helpful to myself and maybe for others. Love Jim